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Old 01-18-2024, 09:03 AM
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Dan, it made the copy as it should. It didn't "pretend" to back up. (Feel free to send me the log to verify.)

If the boot manager doesn't see it, it may have had the wrong partitioning scheme, or High Sierra had never been *installed* to the system (it had been restored, or copied from elsewhere) and thus the BIOS doesn't have APFS capability, even if the *system* does.
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Old 01-20-2024, 10:24 AM
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OK, that makes sense. Now, because I couldn't do the backup with APFS, I was assuming that High Sierra couldn't manage APFS. It can! I reformatted the backup disk to APFS with the High Sierra machine I'm backing up, did another SuperDuper backup to it and ... Boot Manager couldn't see that backup again. Same problem.

So to the extent a backup is really being made, for some reason the Boot Manager can't see it. The backup disk icon is sitting the desktop, as normal, and, if I can click on it, it has inside what sure looks like a backup. So the issue is precisely with the Boot Manager.

As I said, if I format the disk as MacOS Extended, and do the backup, the Boot Manager can see the disk just fine.

I am sending you the SuperDuper log for that backup.
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Old 01-20-2024, 10:26 AM
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Install the OS on this system, Dan. (Sorry, didn't connect the log - which I got before this - to this forum thread.)
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Old 01-20-2024, 10:01 PM
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fixed!

OK, let me wrap things up here. Dave and I did some discussion offline, but he finally suggested just dumping my High Sierra and reloading it. That took some effort as the Apple instructions for recovery were poor, and loads of people have had problems with the "The recovery server could not be contacted" error and the 2000F error in the reinstall package which were a big waste of time. But I finally just went to the App Store, downloaded the OS and over-installed it that way. Bottom line is that now everything works GREAT. I can now back up to an APFS drive, and boot from it, which for some bizarre reason I was unable to do before. Problem solved. So my OS just got corrupted in some subtle way. Thanks to Dave for his sage advice.
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The OS wasn't corrupt - the BIOS/EFI wasn't updated... and that only happens when the OS is installed.
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Thanks. That's because the Boot Manager is in BIOS/EFI? The EFI partition loads the boot device drivers. I guess that's not part of the OS because you need it to start up the OS. Maybe all I needed to do was an EFI Firmware update? I presume when you download the OS, it does that automatically.
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Yes, everything before boot is in the EFI/BIOS. Firmware updates to that are in the OS install packages and aren't available separately.
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